Session Start: Sun Jan 16 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[08:01]<+Mulreay> Hit me with your rythm stick
[08:01]<@jacky> it's alive!
[08:01]<@jacky> :)
[08:04]<+Mulreay> hey jacky
[08:05]<@jacky> How's things?
[08:05]<@jacky> :)
[08:05]<+Mulreay> Astonishingly bad Insomnia, you?
[08:06]<@jacky> dragging a little myself, too
[08:06]<@jacky> but, at least I did sleep
[08:07]<+Mulreay> Keep having nightmares about heart attacks, must still be worried about the heart cramps. Keep shooting up in bed gasping and covered in sweat
[08:07]<+Mulreay> not fun
[08:09]<@jacky> wow
[08:10]<@jacky> I don't think I've had a nightmare since I was a child
[08:10]<@jacky> heck... I don't even have dreams that I remember....
[08:11]<+Mulreay> heh, my meds make my dreams extremely vivd..
[08:11]<+Mulreay> vivd*
[08:11]<+Mulreay> vivid*
[08:11]<+Mulreay> oops
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[08:12]<@jacky> Mulreay: anybody here, that you know of... that knows much about aps for blackberries and such?
[08:12]<Donta> anyone know of a good irc client for blackberry?
[08:13]<+Mulreay> I think Tuz is into that sort of stuff as well as camerongray
[08:13]<@jacky> Donta: BC might be a good one...and I'm thinking camerongray
[08:13]<@jacky> so... visit some, until you catch one of them, live
[08:13]<@jacky> I think Mulreay meant Tux2
[08:13]<+Mulreay> or 3
[08:14]<@jacky> heh
[08:14]<Donta> all ive come across are beta versions that i can never get to connect
[08:14]<Donta> nothing on app world either
[08:15]<Donta> or even in beta at RIM
[08:17]<@jacky> Calum would be a good one too.. but he doesn't make it here very often anymore
[08:17]<@jacky> !seen calum
[08:17]<@jacky> !seen camerongray
[08:27]<@jacky> 
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[08:27]<@jacky> Mulreay: other than no sleep, how are you feeling?
[08:29]<+Mulreay> ok I suppose thx
[08:29]<@jacky> cool
[08:29]<@jacky> did you want to go ahead and at least compile your new bot today?
[08:30]<+Mulreay> been working on that for the past 30mins
[08:30]<@jacky> cool
[08:30]<@jacky> :)
[08:30]<@jacky> how's it coming?
[08:30]<@jacky> and, Donta recently did it too, on a server of pottsi's.... so if there is something that I've forgotten, perhaps he'll remember
[08:30]<+Mulreay> 1 step forward 2 steps back... same old same old
[08:31]<@jacky> np
[08:31]<@jacky> describe
[08:31]<@jacky> we can get you through that beginning phase
[08:31]<+Mulreay> ok the eggdrop1.6.20 folder is loaded onto the shell
[08:31]<+Mulreay> I cannot tar or configure the file
[08:32]<@jacky> back up a sec
[08:32]<@jacky> " eggdrop1.6.20 folder" do you mean file?
[08:32]<+Mulreay> beep beep beep
[08:32]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:32]<+Mulreay> yes
[08:32]<@jacky> ok
[08:32]<+Mulreay> but it'sstill a folder
[08:32]<@jacky> and when you tried the tar zxcf command on it, what happens ?
[08:32]<@jacky> stop
[08:32]<@jacky> I'm confused
[08:32]<@jacky> a file is a file
[08:33]<@jacky> a "folder" is a folder
[08:33]<@jacky> to me... directory... but I can live with folder
[08:33]<+Mulreay> quite right
[08:33]<+Mulreay> when you download eggdrop it is in the form of a folder
[08:33]<@jacky> no
[08:33]<@jacky> it is a file
[08:33]<@jacky> step 1:
[08:33]<@jacky> 1) Download eggdrop1.6.20.tar.gz from the eggheads ftp.
[08:35]<+Mulreay> ok and..
[08:35]<@jacky> then you do step 2
[08:35]<@jacky> :)
[08:36]<@jacky> you uploaded it, correct?
[08:36]<+Mulreay> I've been extracting the files to my desktop and moving them over as a folder
[08:36]<@jacky> desktop?
[08:36]<@jacky> I'm lost
[08:36]<+Mulreay> yes
[08:36]<+Mulreay> how?
[08:36]<@jacky> I don't think of a shell log in as a desktop....
[08:36]<@jacky> that sounds like windows
[08:36]<+Mulreay> and why would you
[08:37]<@jacky> because you brought up "desktop". heheeheh
[08:37]<@jacky> are you trying to say that you are experimenting iwth the files on your windows computer?
[08:37]<+Mulreay> Yeah I assumed you would understand that I don't download files from a website direct into my shell
[08:38]<@jacky> although you can do that... you said that you were following the outline on the webpage I gave you
[08:38]<@jacky> that's what I cut n pasted from
[08:38]<@jacky> am I correct in that?
[08:38]<@jacky> you are following that?
[08:38]<+Mulreay> ok stop. Leave it with me for 10mins brb
[08:38]<@jacky> ok
[08:38]<@jacky> when we continue though, please to reply to that question
[08:39]<@jacky> perhaps therein lies the confusion
[08:39]<@jacky> all along, I've been under the impression you were going step by step, through that...
[08:39]<@jacky> if not... I'm sorry to have caused confusion
[08:39]<@jacky> this iswhat I'm referring to: http://www.egghelp.org/setup.htm
[08:45]<@jacky> brb
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[08:51]<@jacky> back
[08:51]<@jacky> 
[08:51]<@jacky> how's it coming?
[08:54]<+Mulreay> nearlt finished
[08:55]<+Mulreay> nearly*
[08:55]<@jacky> good.. I guess
[08:55]<@jacky> need to know what you are doing though
[08:55]<@jacky> are you following that outline, or something else?
[08:57]<+Mulreay> outline
[08:57]<@jacky> good
[08:58]<@jacky> I dont' know what that was about... the desktop and extracting then... since it is not there
[08:58]<@jacky> but ok
[08:58]<@jacky> if you are moving along that outline, it should work fine
[08:58]<+Mulreay> it was quite simple but your just not getting it
[08:58]<@jacky> getting what?
[08:59]<@jacky> it seems like you are saying that you are following those steps, then you are saying you are doing something else.....
[08:59]<+Mulreay> sorry bud
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[08:59]<@jacky> for what?
[08:59]<@jacky> wow...
[09:01]<Donta> hey i know what a kipper is...
[09:01]<@jacky> hehe
[09:01]<@jacky> I don't
[09:01]<@jacky> what's a kipper
[09:01]<Donta> it's what Newfies call a small fish
[09:01]<@jacky> ah
[09:02]<@jacky> yeck.. I dont' care for much of anything, smoked
[09:02]<Donta> herring
[09:02]<@jacky> personal pref
[09:02]<Donta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipper
[09:02]<@jacky> I wonder what his problem is?
[09:02]<@jacky> he seemed to be irked with me, and I'm trying to help him.....
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[09:11]<@jacky> wb
[09:11]<+Mulreay> thx
[09:11]<@jacky> what's up?
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> hey dudes
[09:11]<+Mulreay> nothing just needed two minutes of quite time
[09:12]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[09:12]<+Mulreay> hey BC_Programming
[09:12]<@jacky> ok
[09:12]<+Mulreay> ok everything is set up
[09:12]<@jacky> cool
[09:12]<+Mulreay> Two steps causing problems
[09:12]<@jacky> oh
[09:13]<@jacky> BC_Programming: do you know much about blackberry aps?
[09:13]<+Mulreay> or maybe just one... I don't think the ip is set up correctly as I can't listen on my port
[09:13]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Donta was looking for something...
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> reading back... IRC client for blackberry
[09:14]<@jacky> Mulreay: not sure if you even need to use the command that sets the ip in eggdrop.conf
[09:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: yep.. tnx
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> not a bloody clue tho.. .heh
[09:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: fair 'nuff
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> I haven't even used a cellphone before :P
[09:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: *I* couldn't comment, so I sic'd him on you and camerongray... heheehe
[09:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: oh! ok... I thought I was the only one
[09:14]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> actually I lied, I tried to use my brothers for some reason
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> I think I gave up
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> oh wait I remember I did manage to read his e-mails
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> haha
[09:15]<+Mulreay> ok jacky but the conf is returning an error that I cannot listen on port ***** on the given address, check your ip settings
[09:15]<Donta> im trying jmirc but it never connects to here
[09:16]<@jacky> Mulreay: interesting..
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> Donta:I think camerongray would have more experience with handheld stuff like that
[09:17]<@jacky> Mulreay: are you setting an ip, in eggdrop.conf?
[09:18]<+Mulreay> Oh for those that don't know, or not that it is going to really matter as I doubt we will see him... It's Steve's birthday today
[09:18]<@jacky> :(
[09:18]<@jacky> bummer... that would be good to see him, today
[09:18]<+Mulreay> there is an ip set in the conf file yes
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> I shall craft a cake in his honour
[09:18]<@jacky> tried it with it commented out?
[09:18]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:18]<+Mulreay> will try now
[09:23]<Donta> SCORE! got jmirc working
[09:24]<+Mulreay> ok jacky he's up and running
[09:24]<@jacky> two winners in a row!
[09:24]<@jacky> heh
[09:24]<@jacky> Mulreay: is bot here on mibbit?
[09:25]<+Mulreay> just setting some stuff like passwords etc
[09:25]<+Mulreay> if I can remember
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[09:26]<+Mulreay> but yeah he's on here now
[09:26]<Donta> wups
[09:26]<+Mulreay> in the background just not on a channel
[09:26]<@jacky> the suspense! heheehe ... what's bot's nick?
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[09:27]<+Mulreay> Titan
[09:27]<Donta_bb> Stupid auto correct
[09:28]<Donta> i get a response from it
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[09:37]<Donta_bb> Just testing this client from my bb.
[09:37]<Donta_bb> It's not bad.
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[09:40]<@jacky> liking it?
[09:40]<@jacky> :)
[09:41]<Donta> its ok, just trying to figure out how to join two channels and switch between them
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[09:43]<@jacky> Donta: the command /join #channelNameHere
[09:43]<@jacky> is rather universal
[09:43]<@jacky> but... as to how to switch back n forth....
[09:43]<@jacky> dunno
[09:43]<Donta> yeah i got in both channels fine
[09:43]<@jacky> at same time?
[09:43]<Donta> actually our main channel has a key
[09:44]<Donta> yeah from the bb client in both channels, but i dont see a way to switch to the other channel without closing the one im looking at
[09:44]<Donta> it is beta software so im not too mad
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[09:45]<@jacky> aha
[09:45]<@jacky> camerongray is here
[09:45]<@jacky> see if he knows anything about that stuff
[09:45]<@jacky> :)
[09:46]<Donta> Cameron ever use jmirc on a blackberry?
[09:48]<+pottsi> i was pinged?
[09:48]<@jacky> I pinged camerongray
[09:48]<+pottsi> acky and, Donta recently did it too, on a server of pottsi's.... so if there is something that I've forgotten, perhaps he'll remember
[09:48]<+pottsi> my scrool back end there
[09:48]<@jacky> ah
[09:49]<+pottsi> jmirc sucks Donta
[09:49]<+pottsi> :(
[09:49]<@jacky> and, I'd forgotten about you and your handheld stuff!
[09:49]<@jacky> you might be a good source for Donta
[09:49]<@jacky> :)
[09:49]<Donta> so which one would work?
[09:49]<Donta> im using a 9550 on 5.0 software
[09:49]<+pottsi> blackberry?
[09:49]<Donta> yeah storm 2
[09:50]<Donta> i got jmirc to work but i can't figure out how to switch between channels.
[09:50]<+pottsi> hmm
[09:56]<Donta> its an improvement from what i was going to do
[09:56]<Donta> telnet into my bot from my device and .msg people from it.
[10:00]<+camerongray> Oh, I'm here
[10:00]<+camerongray> Not on a blackberry
[10:01]<+camerongray> I used it ages ago on my old sony erricson
[10:01]<@jacky> what do you use now?
[10:01]<+camerongray> Android - Orange San Francisco
[10:02]<+camerongray> The sony was good but I decided to replace it when only half the screen worked and it turned off randomly :P
[10:02]<+camerongray> Oh, and it went swimming :P
[10:02]<@jacky> you tossed it overboard??
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[10:03]<+camerongray> In my pocket on holiday and I jumped in the pool - Forgot it was there
[10:03] * titan is now known as mulreay
[10:03]<+camerongray> Worked after I dried it but turned off randomly
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[10:04] * Mulreay is now known as Titan
[10:04]<@jacky> har
[10:04]<Donta> i heard a lady had dropped an old 6700 series blackberry off her dock at her cabin, was underwater for 3 days and some kid dove down for it.
[10:04]<Donta> she dried it out on a coffee pot hotplate and it worked fine
[10:05]<+camerongray> cool
[10:05] * +camerongray loves android
[10:05]<Donta> now they get water damage from hardly anything.
[10:05]<Donta> Planned obsolescence once more
[10:06]<@jacky> tranlation: we get to sell you a new phone
[10:06]<@jacky> translation*
[10:06]<Donta> yes
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[10:07]<+camerongray> All these "we buy your old phone" companies are popping up now
[10:07] * Mulreay is now known as Guest33514
[10:08]<+camerongray> One of them said that my phone was worth £7.50 even though it cost £99.99 new
[10:08]<+camerongray> And it's only 3 weeks old :P
[10:08]<Donta> lol
[10:09]<Donta> I wonder how long our playbook will last?
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[10:11]<@jacky> be back later....
[10:11]<@jacky> bye for now
[10:11]<+Mulreay> Later bud
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[11:15]<+Mulreay> gonna try and run minecraft on the other laptop to see if that has issues with online
[11:15]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:47]<+Mulreay> ok that'sall loaded up on the laptop 2
[11:50]<+Mulreay> xp is still doing it's 'non-responsive' stuff though... very annoying
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> [INFO] Disconnecting /86.30.110.24:1140: Took too long to log in
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> [INFO] Disconnecting /86.30.110.24:1142: Took too long to log in
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> [INFO] Disconnecting Mulreay [/86.30.110.24:1144]: Took too long to log in
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> weird
[11:51]<+Mulreay> i was in for about 5mins then left, could not re-log in, but XP has stopped again.
[11:52]<+Mulreay> or ctfmone.exe and explorer.exe
[11:54]<+Mulreay> and again... everytime I try to open a folder of any kind, XP stops responding
[11:55]<+pottsi> reinstall
[11:55]<+pottsi> afk
[11:55]<+Mulreay> not sure if I have anything to re-install with but yeah getting that way
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[12:34]<+Mulreay> pottsi you there bud? Last comment was afk so just checking
[12:36]<+pottsi> back
[12:36]<+Mulreay> can I just PM you about something quickly please
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> next dawn I must leave the safety of megaman bay and look for cactus so that I can start a cactus farm for green dye
[12:37]<+Mulreay> cool
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> megaman bay seems a fitting name
[12:37]<+Mulreay> indeed
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> there I have added it to my minimap
[12:38]<+pottsi> sup Mulreay
[12:38]<+pottsi> sure
[12:38]<+pottsi> mp
[12:38]<+pottsi> pm*
[13:18]<Nepherius> BC_Programming: any chance you know a cheap p4 motherboard model with socket 370 ?:)
[13:18]<+Mulreay> Nobody ever asks me
[13:19]<Nepherius> you know one Mulreay ?:)
[13:19]<+Mulreay> no
[13:19]<+Mulreay> :)
[13:19]<Nepherius> :)
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[13:41]<+Mulreay> for BC_Programming really
[13:41]<+Mulreay> http://www.livestream.com/coesquest
[13:41]<+Mulreay> it's the creator of minecraft
[14:53]<+pottsi> freaking awesome
[14:55]<+Mulreay> what what what
[14:58]<+camerongray> I must know too :p
[14:59]<+Mulreay> I can hardly contain myself
[15:00]<+pottsi> heh
[15:00]<+pottsi> nothign important
[15:00]<+camerongray> lol
[15:00]<+pottsi> i just made a script to have for eggdrops
[15:00]<+Mulreay> WHAT! That was the biggest anti-climax ever
[15:00]<+camerongray> Can someone please tell HP that the point of a printer is to print
[15:00]<+pottsi> user runs the script
[15:01]<+pottsi> eggdrop is installed
[15:01]<+pottsi> config modded and then ran
[15:01]<+camerongray> Not to say ink low when the cartridge is new
[15:01]<+Mulreay> cool and camerongray I'll get on to it, but I feel it's a losing battle
[15:01]<+camerongray> lol - Printing now
[15:02]<+camerongray> Had to randomly turn it on and off until it started
[15:03]<+camerongray> Printers seem to be the only computer related thing that I don't get along with :P
[15:03]<+Mulreay> http://www.livestream.com/coesquest
[15:03]<+Mulreay> oops
[15:03]<+Mulreay> http://www.livestream.com/coesquest
[15:03]<+Mulreay> NOOOO
[15:03]<+camerongray> hahaha
[15:03]<+Mulreay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQGtucrJ8hM is what I meant
[15:03]<+camerongray> lol
[15:05]<+Mulreay> still one of my favourites that
[15:05]<+camerongray> Yeh, just what mine is doing
[15:09]<+pottsi> colours are such a head <censored> in bash
[15:09]<+pottsi> :|
[15:13]<+Mulreay> hey pottsi want a tip for a great film to watch
[15:14]<+pottsi> sure
[15:14]<+Mulreay> four lions
[15:14]<+pottsi> about england?
[15:14]<+Mulreay> yeah, terrorists... had me laughing last night
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[17:40]<+Mulreay> later quickfix, could of done with your advice on some stuff that needed fixing
[17:42]<@BC_Programming> lol
[17:44]<+Mulreay> hey you don't ask you don't get, I did compile a small list but he left before I could post
[17:45]<+Mulreay> One of them was the breakdown of relationship with the Muslims and thw Western world... that was at number two.. number one was my microwave is playing up
[17:47]<@BC_Programming> damn we could have solved so many tribulations
[17:47]<@BC_Programming> but he went and left
[17:47]<+Mulreay> I know, the world is a lesser place without him
[17:49]<+Mulreay> COME BACK Quickfix we are in need of your quick fixing abilities... it's like when Superman decided to jack in his powers because he wanted some tail... see this is why the world is in such a mess
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> damn u superman
[17:50]<+Mulreay> and quickfix
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> if only superman were here though
[17:50]<+Mulreay> yeah he could fix my XP laptop I bet ya
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> we could get him to revolve around the earth backwards really fast and nonsensically cause time to reverse
[17:50]<@BC_Programming> then we could go back to when quickfix was here and he could solve everything
[17:51]<@BC_Programming> quickly, I would imagine... any other speed would be false advertising
[17:51]<+Mulreay> oh I was adding that into my next article on SAS.. I thought that was a given you know 'Time revolves around us' and the such
[17:52]<+Mulreay> Damn you 'Christopher Reeve' and your false protrayal of time and space... and whoever made the script
[17:52]<+Mulreay> Gonna have to shut SAS down now... can't believe it
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> also
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> what's interesting about that reversal sequence, is that it really is sort of silly even if you accept the whole "retrograde rotation reverses time" nonsense
[17:53]<@BC_Programming> since if I recall the very reason he reversed time was because that broad was killed because he [i]wasn't fast enough[/i] to stop two missiles at once or something
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> and yet then he is going around the entire world like 7 times a second
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> why the hell didn't he just fly that fast before
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> what was he holding back
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> does flying to fast inside ther atmosphere give his punching flying hand a burn or something?
[17:56]<+Mulreay> Well the bigger point would be does he have sufficient mass to effect the earths rotation at any speed... In the grander scheme of things he is certainly bigger than an electron but far smaller than a moon.
[17:57]<+Mulreay> But yeah why not fly so fast to get here... probably because he would have ripped her into peices grabbing her at that speed... or something similar
[17:58]<+Mulreay> her*
[17:58]<@BC_Programming> yes but that is more being pedantic... the fact that the very reason he had to do that to begin with was because he was "too slow" and then suddenly he is fast enough to something entirely different is simply inconsistent- since it's time of production sort of gives it a bit of leeway scientifically. I mean, a lot of the technical explanations on Star trek are pretty nonsense, but we accept
[17:58]<+Mulreay> But he's still lame
[17:58]<@BC_Programming> them better then we do inconsistencies in the plot
[17:58]<+Mulreay> true
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> thankfully there aren't quite so many glaring issues with them plot-wise
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> star trek, I mean
[18:00]<+Mulreay> Superman sucks balls stargate and Star trek rock... could be something like that... or it could be that Red Dwarf has so many scientific holes in it that the writers even know... but who gives a feck when your pissin yourself laughin
[18:00]<@BC_Programming> the idea of Red Dwarf was to parody Star trek I think... parody and satire get's a free pass
[18:01]<+Mulreay> of course
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> specifically I find it sort of funny that with Star Trek about half the time the problems that are part of the plot are because of the ship or something
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> Damn they sure are lucky that they suddenly lose all control when there aren't romulans around or something
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> man that would be embarassing
[18:03]<+Mulreay> Red Dwarf has been coined that way before... I remember back in the early 90's that Doug Naylor had an interview on BBC about Red Dwarf.. and he said something like this 'Were not trying to make star Trek were making a comedy'.
[18:04]<+Mulreay> People kept trying to say it was a sci fi show
[18:05]<@BC_Programming> yes but there is no doubting that it often provided humorous and satirical mimicry of various tropes one can find in Star trek
[18:05]<+Mulreay> of course
[18:05]<+Mulreay> for comedy effect
[18:05]<+Mulreay> 'There's a wibbly wobbly thing in space'
[18:05]<@BC_Programming> heh
[18:06]<@BC_Programming> There's a big swirly thing
[18:06]<+Mulreay> That is comic genius
[18:06]<+Mulreay> exactly
[18:06]<@BC_Programming> or "go to red alert!" "are you sure sir? it will require changing the bulb"
[18:07]<+Mulreay> A computer that used to have an iq of 6000 is now a gibbering idiot kinda points towards humans sinility
[18:07]<@BC_Programming> or the space core directive quotes, heh
[18:07]<+Mulreay> LOL
[18:07]<+Mulreay> love the quotes
[18:07]<@BC_Programming> "I'd be happy to perform the ceremony, but I just don't see how sacrificing live poultry could help us in this situation"
[18:08]<+Mulreay> Purple alert, purple alert... 'What's purple alert?' 'well it'snot quite red alert and not quite blue alert'
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> heh
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> brown alert
[18:08]<+Mulreay> lol
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> "there is no brown alert, sir"
[18:08]<+Mulreay> Ahh we could do this all night
[18:09]<@BC_Programming> "That's it, I'm invoking All-Nations Agreement Article 39436175880932/B."
[18:10]<+Mulreay> Was watching three episodes last night in bed.. I watched 'timeslides' 'DNA' and 'Polymorph' wanted to watch some of the 3rd series..
[18:10]<+Mulreay> LOL
[18:10]<@BC_Programming> "39436175880932/B. "All nations attending the conference are only allocated one parking space." Is that entirely relevant sir? I mean, here we are, in mortal danger and you're worried about the Chinese delegates bringing two cars."
[18:10]<+Mulreay> rofl
[18:10]<+Mulreay> Love it
[18:11]<@BC_Programming> space core directive 349. "Any officer found to have been slaughtered and replaced by a shape-changing chameleonic life form shall forfeit all pension rights."
[18:11]<+Mulreay> lol
[18:11]<@BC_Programming> 592. "In an emergency situation involving two or more officers of equal rank, seniority will be given to whichever officer can programme a VCR."
[18:11]<+Mulreay> The sniffing the saddle in the womens gym was awesome
[18:11]<@BC_Programming> ahh yes
[18:12]<+Mulreay> How the hell are you getting these dirs so quick?
[18:12]<@BC_Programming> 997. "Work done by an officer's doppleganger in a parallel universe cannot be claimed as overtime."
[18:12]<@BC_Programming> :P
[18:12]<+Mulreay> ahh I know
[18:12]<@BC_Programming> google powers
[18:12]<+Mulreay> yep
[18:13]<+Mulreay> See, if I had never bothered you on CH and then never got brought on here by Jacky... you may never have watched it... what a loss that would be
[18:14]<@BC_Programming> no I had seen it before actually
[18:14]<+Mulreay> ohh okay, my was was more cool
[18:14]<+Mulreay> way*
[18:15]<+Mulreay> oh BC_Programming` I have a film for you to watch
[18:15]<+Mulreay> Trust me it's hilarious
[18:16]<@BC_Programming> k
[18:17]<+Mulreay> There were some bits I was going to chop in youtube but not sure yet... there is one bit you would love... but I guess watch the whole film and you will get it more
[18:17]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[18:18]<+Mulreay> It had me literally lol last night in bed
[18:18]<+Mulreay> It's very british humour but I know you get that
[18:18]<+Mulreay> You working tonight BC_Programming?
[18:19]<@BC_Programming> no
[18:21]<+Mulreay> Did you decide to get AS: Brotherhood?
[18:21]<@BC_Programming> not yet
[18:21]<+Mulreay> k
[18:36]<+Mulreay> Mmm 7713 'The log must be kept up to date at all times with current service records, complete mission data, and a comprehensive and accurate list of all crew birthdays so that senior officers may avoid bitter and embarrassing silences when meeting in the corridor with subordinates who have not received a card'.
[18:36]<@BC_Programming> heh
[18:38]<+Mulreay> lol @ 5796 'No officer above the rank of mess sergeant is permitted to go into combat with pierced nipples'.
[18:38]<+Mulreay> wtf
[18:38]<@BC_Programming> heh
[18:40]<+Mulreay> What a world
[19:14]<+Mulreay> Love the way you get attached to the horse in AC... he's my horsey
[19:15]<+Mulreay> You just whistle and he comes
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> sounds like Epona to me
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> Epona is the horse in zelda btw... in the games she is in you can always learn/play a certain song and she comes to you no matter where she was
[19:17]<+Mulreay> Yeah the horses in this tend to be the last you hijacked... mine is still the original... shes a mare called polly
[19:18]<+Mulreay> That's my name not there's they don't give names
[19:18]<@BC_Programming> three Zelda games... that's how many a Horse whose default name is Epona is in... unless there is a new one with her in it
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> the latest one I have let's you name her when you start the game
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> I briefly considered "Volvo"
[19:19]<+Mulreay> lol... very safe
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> which is the name O use for my flying time machine in chrono trigger
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> I have a curious naming scheme for Chrono trigger, the main Character of course get's "Mike" then the escaped princess stereotype get's "Beth", the tech dork girl get's "Dorke" the robot fellow get's "Botty" the talking frog, "Hoppy" and the others at default because I ran out of imagination
[19:21]<+Mulreay> lol
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> damn chrono trigger... so much I bought the "real" game cart
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> now that's dedication
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> considering that it was freaking 80 dollars
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> for a SNES GAME. WTF
[19:22]<+Mulreay> really?
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> yeah no joke
[19:23]<+Mulreay> wow that is too much
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> it's not so much rare as it is extremely high-demand... much like FF3
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> conversely, I got a still shrink-wrapped F-zero for like 7 dollars
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> lol
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> damn, I didn't know slimes could spawn in MC
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> too bad you can't do anything with the slimeball yet...
[19:26]<@BC_Programming> wow lot's of shite suggestions on the minecraft forums, but some damn spectacular ones as well
[19:27]<+Mulreay> I gave a link earlier with the guy who made it... he explained lots of things live
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> guy who made what?
[19:27]<+Mulreay> Minecraft
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> Notch
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> Marcus... something
[19:27]<+Mulreay> yep
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> will look back for link
[19:28]<+Mulreay> It's finished now
[19:28]<+Mulreay> It was a live link
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> o
[19:28]<+Mulreay> <+Mulreay> for BC_Programming really
[19:28]<+Mulreay> <+Mulreay> http://www.livestream.com/coesquest
[19:28]<+Mulreay> <+Mulreay> it's the creator of minecraft
[19:29]<+Mulreay> It was cool, sitting there listening to everyone ask the questions they wanted to... he's making some changes
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> this might sound a bit strange, but I consider Notch sort of a "peer" programmer person
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> I mean, the only 3-D application I ever made was a graphing program
[19:30]<+Mulreay> Not strange at all
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> but damn I which I had thought of something like minecraft
[19:31]<+Mulreay> yeah I have a kinda better idea
[19:32]<@BC_Programming> it's harder to take something like baseblock, which is based on an ancient idea that has been extended in all sorts of ways, and come up with something original
[19:33]<+Mulreay> No BC_Programming that just proves you have potential
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> yeah but I think I may have thought of a good way to do so, might not be fully original... like have the paddle be you and it has health and can be damaged by stuff
[19:34]<+Mulreay> yeah why not
[19:34]<@BC_Programming> it already sorta works, going to have to work on some other stuff that I added but didn't finish yet
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> like little stars you get everytime you beat all the levels in the set... it takes you back to the first level but you get a "star" on the status display
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> why stars?
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> It's always stars
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> maybe it could make all your points multiplied by 1+ the number of stars you've gotten, many possibilities
[19:36]<@BC_Programming> I already have it so that I can add blocks and level generators to the game by simply plopping a dll in with the game
[19:36]<+Mulreay> You need to think bigger
[19:37]<@BC_Programming> how so
[19:40]<+Mulreay> thinking... but simple things like the blocks start falling... and they need to be destroyed... not to fast but they start falling slowly.. like the old 'alien invader' games
[19:40]<@BC_Programming> hmm that would be doable
[19:41]<+Mulreay> I like that idea
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> although that would make all the blocks animated... perf issues with lesser PCs methinks
[19:41]<+Mulreay> No just some
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> ahh yes yes
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> tha would work
[19:41]<+Mulreay> yep
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> I remember my original poing had an idea for "shaker" blocks, where all blocks would fall
[19:42]<@BC_Programming> naturally that didn't work so well because the graphics code for that one sucked buffalo diarrhea through a straw
[19:42]<+Mulreay> I have another idea for a block
[19:42]<@BC_Programming> k shoot
[19:43]<+Mulreay> A singularity block... it sucks in some blocks around it
[19:43]<@BC_Programming> ahh yes similar to the blackhole block from my first one
[19:43]<+Mulreay> Sorry never saw that, not stealing ideas
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking it would more just exert gravity on the balls in the new one
[19:44]<+Mulreay> ahh nice
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> probably be indestructible... but that could cause problems with balls getting stuck to it or something
[19:44]<+Mulreay> yeah, I have a better idea
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> the original one was simple... it would be destroyed but if you had more then one ball "in play" it would take the ball that hit it with it
[19:45]<+Mulreay> A fan block it blows in one direction which makes the ball travel in that direction
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> like it
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> but it only blows it if the ball is "in the windstream" so to speak too
[19:45]<+Mulreay> yeah
[19:46]<+Mulreay> sweet
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> what's cool about that stuff is that, I already have written stuff so that I can make any single block I ever make follow a preset path and move along it and stuff
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> so that would be cool to have a black hole/gravity block moving around, and trying to get your ball to go where you want it would be a pain in the ass
[19:47]<+Mulreay> OK Carmack I'll just be 'Romero the gamer' lol I love the ideas though
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:48]<+Mulreay> I have another idea
[19:48]<+Mulreay> one sec
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> k
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> I'm copying some of these ideas into my block class for future reference :P
[19:51]<+Mulreay> Make the gap between gamer and the blocks larger, every so often there is a rift in space that makes the ball follow a gravitiational spin and head off in a weird direction... the Gravitational spin would be something like a weird blue and white icon in the middle of the game field between the blocks and the paddle
[19:52]<+Mulreay> sorry just running ideas here
[19:53]<@BC_Programming> hmm, not really sure what you mean, there... you mean like when the ball get's halfway between the paddle and the lowest block it will sometimes flit at a random sorta direction if there is like an "anomaly" occuring?
[19:53]<+Mulreay> yeah, maybe that is not so good
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> it could be a block though
[19:54]<+Mulreay> Not half way but it 'hit's an icon and then goes off
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> like a block that instead of bouncing directly it sends the ball in some other random direction
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> ahh- so a block pretty much? that would be doable and easy as well which is a quality I like
[19:54]<+Mulreay> yeah
[19:55]<@BC_Programming> I guess the speed it currently has should be preserved
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> you'd be surprised how much damned trigonometry this game involves
[19:56]<+Mulreay> This has only happened because of that book... I'm pushing your engine and thinking what can we do... some strange weird similartities going on here.. but still bad spelling
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:57]<+Mulreay> Ahh new idea
[19:58]<+Mulreay> A block 'very rare' if you hit it, it fires two slow balls back at you
[19:59]<+Mulreay> Think you may have that
[19:59]<+Mulreay> Just pushing ideas now
[20:00]<+Mulreay> Or a block that has a timer
[20:00]<+Mulreay> not sure why yet
[20:00]<@BC_Programming> well I sorta already have a block with a timer
[20:00]<@BC_Programming> I call it the grow block
[20:00]<+Mulreay> cool
[20:01]<@BC_Programming> it's like the strong block, it takes 5 hits, but, it slowly "heals" itself
[20:02]<+Mulreay> Can you do a block that would take you into another game? Like a bonus game to get more credite? But it's really hard to get
[20:02]<@BC_Programming> yeah actually I was thinking something like a warp block probably
[20:02]<+Mulreay> yeah
[20:02]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking about that the other day
[20:03]<+Mulreay> I have an idea for that
[20:06]<+Mulreay> I was thinking a blinking target that had 5 bottles on it... once you smashed the 5 targets you get in... but the block is rather random as in appears randomly
[20:06]<+Mulreay> So it will keap disappearing
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[20:07]<+Mulreay> Maybe not
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> what about if there were 5 target blocks, or 3, or whatever
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> and when you got them all you got extra bonus points
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> or an extra life
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> and they aren't required to finish that level
[20:08]<+Mulreay> It's not difficult enough.... we need something that proper gamers would get... it has to be an easter egg
[20:09]<+Mulreay> When you get it you get that 'WOW I did it'
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> it doesn't seem that much different in concept from yoshi coins in smw, but I think I know what you mean
[20:09]<+Mulreay> There has to be someting...
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably add my "target" block ideas as a common staple in most levels, but there could probably be like a super rare type of block like you mention
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> and it'll appear randomly during a level
[20:10]<+Mulreay> Yeah but that is selective rather than somebody earning a skill
[20:11]<+Mulreay> Gaming = earn skills
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> achievements?
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> "trophies" maybe?
[20:12]<+Mulreay> I thought nore skills as in your paddle was better
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> yeah but I already have that with power-ups
[20:13]<+Mulreay> True
[20:14]<+Mulreay> I have an idea
[20:14]<+Mulreay> ok
[20:14]<+Mulreay> Let me type out
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> k
[20:16]<+Mulreay> You could make a power-up as normal but there is a block called supernova that needs 3 consecutive hits to creat a complete level wipe out... sorry that is my first idea
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> oh hey I like something like that
[20:17]<+Mulreay> cool
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> like it needs to be hit really close- like the three hits have to occur within a single second of each other, so you'd need a lot of balls in play to successfully hit it
[20:17]<+Mulreay> yeah
[20:18]<+Mulreay> Liking this
[20:19]<+Mulreay> ahh just thought of a GReat IDEA
[20:19]<+Mulreay> Not sure if you can programme it but feck me it would be cool
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> k
[20:20]<+Mulreay> Will type
[20:23]<+Mulreay> This may be above the code.. but... a block that allows you to choose 3 balls and three blocks and you can choose the direction.. only one is your actual ball so just follow that... the other two can die.. it's like a bonus. Not sure at all if you can do that... but I'm pushing tour code like Romero.
[20:24]<+Mulreay> Sorry typing out loaud
[20:24]<+Mulreay> loud*
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> well for balls that's somewhat what I have... basically you can let any balls "die", and it's only the last ball leaving that makes you lose a life
[20:25]<+Mulreay> I have another idea
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> k
[20:25]<+Mulreay> Not sure if you could do this...
[20:30]<+Mulreay> There are two blocks... for example.. it's you and me. You have to hit the you button to remove the red blocks and when you hit me you can only lose the blue blocks. I was thinking of a harder level
[20:30]<@BC_Programming> o two player
[20:30]<+Mulreay> yep
[20:31]<@BC_Programming> that'll be tough, I'd have to add networking ideally
[20:31]<@BC_Programming> but I like it since I never really could figure out how a two-player game would even work
[20:32]<+Mulreay> worth a try
[20:35]<+Mulreay> Need to go downtairs, I can make crumpets
[20:35]<+Mulreay> Crumpets arwe the best thing ever
[20:39]<+Mulreay> I feel I may be too removed from the virtual world |i feel so connected to
[21:08]<+Mulreay> Rude alert, rude alert, this is not a daffodil.. rude alert
[21:17]<+Mulreay> Watching 'Demons and Angels'...so funnt]
[21:17]<+Mulreay> funy*
[21:17]<+Mulreay> oops
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[21:17]<+Mulreay> funy
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